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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
沉迷在历史故事中的原田真人只能靠服化道和明星演员继续苟，对着摄像头来一刀也挺无语的，战争场面比《关原》更加乏味和空洞。在历史主义的宿命论的悲观视角下，反映个体或是小团体的挣扎显得是如此的无力，早年原田真人《投靠女与出走男》的轻盈感，现在已是荡然无存。
将原作中的虚无变夯实了，不容易懂的故事也变得通俗。驹子后半太耀眼，就像一团火，周围一切都暗淡了，为爱奋不顾身看着一点也不徒劳。雪景虽美，却还是不若川端康成的文字美。
这一版，搞懂了驹子和行男，以及驹子和岛村。但是驹子和叶子，被高人指点了……川端康成笔下的人物关系，完全靠猜啊……
一共700多頁的原著濃縮成兩個多小時的電影，導演把觀眾想看的都留下來了：土方近藤總司三人的牽絆、土方和お雪的牽絆、松平容保的無可奈何和幕末的動盪刻。但對於歷史愛好者而言可能還是不夠深刻，受限於時長的關係，有點流水帳了。值得一提的是電影開頭的石板路是有意義的，要看到最後才知道。五星給三人組、松平容保和山崎烝。
爱到极致就不是徒劳！女主诠释了这一切，虽然过程是痛苦悲哀的。奈绪的演技真的挺不错！
ME in my eighties still killing to be a whore
对七八十年代虐杀cult片的致敬，像是德州电锯杀人狂和十三号星期五的结合体，黄片摄制组的设定也是很有嬉皮腔调，前面基本就是危险预警，鳄鱼袭来和脚踩钉子这种都是初级段位，最劲的还是虐杀者身份的反差感，鲜血染红车灯，老妇翩翩起舞，这还真不愧是A24。与血腥场面相比，还是衰老的肉体更为惊悚，衰老肉体还想大搞特搞那更是惊悚得无以复加了。
奈绪原来这么美~每一帧都好美,哭起来可太苍凉了～
梦想成真的时候也就说明梦想破灭了。就好像成为西洋舞蹈评论家。就好像叶子跟他说去东京一样。影视化总是少了点东西。演员都是好演员。奈绪演的驹子最后念日记那里真的好美好惊艳（前面完全没这个感觉甚至不是很贴）看完不晓得为什么有点烦叶子。。因为叶子我扣分了。。可能跟设定和演技有关？？看完到不想觉得谁是渣男毕竟年代观念都不一样。。。就是很虚无hhhhhh雪景拍的太好看了倒是真的。
卡司在线，布景、构图、氛围还是不错的，配乐与氛围相合；打光太僵硬，改编了但改编得太直白和浅薄，高桥与角色适配度一般，驹子视角优于岛村视角。川端康成对人物心理的描写落于纸上是细腻和寂寥，一旦改编成对话就显得刻意又矫情。
A24三件宝：诡异的动物，爆掉的脑袋和衰老的肉体。
电影《雪国》2022版看完，驹子叶子的颜值相较于《人间失格》低了许多，虽有淡淡的物哀之愁，却没有太多撕心裂肺的痛感。
呃…充斥着电影城质感，开头居然是走着穿越隧道的，并且火车车窗叶子倒影那么重要的片段简直敷衍，精神专一的改编完全扼杀了驹子与叶子那种双生一般相爱相杀的联结（女性之间的情感在后期川端其实成为了很重要的命题…真的是白瞎了那么好看的奈绪
桥老则老矣，演这种有钱又有点丧的文青还是手到擒来啊。即别人的故事是别人的故事我只是个开麦拉（。还真是。驹子日记那段跟看电影似的，但就算打破第四面墙火场里她还是朝叶子的方向跑过去，最近的距离是擦过肩膀。ps奈绪真是楚楚动人啊，眼睛总是湿漉漉的。
确实感觉驹子和叶子那条线太隐了，看的时候是有点暗戳戳的情愫但还是太少了点，直到看了评论才恍然大悟，也可能是我看的不够仔细罢，btw摄影画面确实值得一看
不能跟原著的纯洁粲然比，但已经算还原得不错的了。“驹子令我虔诚匍匐，又被悔恨的洪流裹挟”。这一切都是多么地徒劳啊。
没必要把故事讲那么清楚，驹子的爱情和叶子的爱情的徒劳，二世祖的虚无，火车窗上的倒影，雪晴山上发光的胡枝子都比这个并不有趣的故事重要得多。
叶子和行男是一对，啊原来不是，啊难道是喜欢驹子，啊难道竟然是为了驹子
标准娱乐了。在Burbank看的目测全场都是影视行业打工人，大家笑点完全一致非常有回娘家感哈哈哈… 但还是不要搞这么低级趣味的东西吧，ageism这种东西，真的不该拿来开玩笑。看到一半有个老头推着walker出去了… 我正觉得非常悲伤的时候，过了会儿他竟然又推着walker回来了… 估计是去上卫生间了？… 真是无比强大的内心啊。说真的要是他突然开枪扫全场，我觉得也是可以的… 所以说还是不要拍这种东西吧
粗读原著。细腻动人，由外及内，觉察到身影，碰触到呼吸，体会到情绪，却始终探不清人物的样子。于是当神态遮掩，脸孔模糊，恰巧是少有的动人之时。
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