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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
12/5/2022 @ MM Cityplaza。兩條故事線交接得太過勉強了
6.5 太像同人作品，两条线没太大关联，全片浅焦。美术绝佳。
继承母亲通灵能力的兄妹靠这个天赋翻盘的故事，鬼帮助人来对付人的设定算罕见的，值得四星。
视觉风格和叙事水平还是可以的，就是故事也太俗了吧，阿莫多瓦的母性诠释，逝去的悲怆历史与新生命的诞生，将母性的伟大与历史的厚重平行，但几个主题间的联系又不明确，貌似最深层的历史主题反而显的最弱
高清字幕在线第一刷
想讲的太多又讲的莫名其妙的，靠梦境和电话才能推进的剧情一点都不恐怖和暴力。前面大篇幅讲了校园暴力和原生家庭，和后面有半毛钱关联吗？而且在这个过程中，一开始就想逃的男主，看上去前后毫无变化，也没有任何成长，看了个寂寞。
命运奇情与历史厚重有少许割裂。除此之外，依然是阿莫多瓦的味道，少了跳跃惊悚，多了从容匠气。稍微失望是配乐有点满。3.5
各方面都很敷衍。可以理解西班牙为什么不送奥外
看开头一直以为小男孩是演伊桑霍克小时候，还想着这小演员找的还挺像的哈！没想到就一直看到了结束。
(补标)四星半。能感受到阿莫多瓦整个过程都非常松弛，几乎是信手拈来的状态。尤其剪辑凌厉，节奏铺陈和推进轻快而畅然，也让我感觉非常舒服。
看起来是一个抱错孩子的老故事，但放在寻找记忆的脉络里就有了其隐喻作用。再加上短暂而动荡的同性情节。导演似乎要说，失去性别的任一方都会让血统的传承丢失，而这个小镇的每个女人经历着这一失去。
在这样一部女性主导历史叙述和现世经验，甚至循环生死的编年史中，我们再次看到了一种被边缘化的、只能以入侵者或合作者身份出现的男性，他（们）以不和谐的方式破坏了女性平衡，然后保持沉默。同时在发掘乱葬岗时，不断突出甚至有些刺眼的男性形象成为隐秘历史的代言人，借由女童视角被聚焦被注视，由此发出对历史以及对男性本身的叩问。爱与思想继承于女性，我们感知女性，也便是在感知世界。
个人还蛮喜欢的!!故事设置很能打动我,让我想起之前看到过的一起真实案件记录提到被害的多名女性在知道自己无法逃脱以后都会尽量在现场藏自己的指甲,皮屑,头发为未来侦破提供证据,和这部片所表达的还挺异曲同工的
蛮温暖的，不过两个嵌套在一起的故事没什么关系。
又是弱智的情节+突兀的jump scare，和小丑回魂2可以共同归类为“小孩流泪大人沉默片”。
親子鑒定與掘地驗骨，一組姿勢鮮明卻十分生硬的平行。前面一度像《回歸》那樣純粹又自然：不需要大聲疾呼的母系同盟，對話中女人真正成為生活的正常主體。更美妙的是鏡頭的那些對“親密感”的捕捉，對家庭這個概念的自然轉化，使得影片一度處在十分舒適的區域。但，女人們不需要sexually interested來真正愛彼此！而阿莫多瓦顯然也需要更好的方式讓兩個層次更自然interwoven。目前電影的割裂感就像馬里亞納海溝似的......
与其说是阿莫多瓦拍的，不如说更像是阿莫多瓦的模仿者拍的。
西班牙的房子墙壁颜色很舒服，不是冷淡的白，而是青色。婴儿猝死综合征：睡觉时突然忘记了呼吸。亲子检测、基因检测还有一个用途是辨认去世的前辈，令人感慨。女生被侵犯后怕警察反复询问引起的再次伤害，怕媒体的曝光，选择了沉默，这是一个问题。对战争、对先人不能忘记。“历史永远不会沉默，不论他们如何诋毁，不论他们如何篡改，不论他们如何伪造，人类的历史都拒绝保持沉默。”
看片中的拍照戏联想到「安东尼奥尼《放大》」，而后两孕妇在医院待产的情节+片名《平行母亲》不禁让我担心发生类似「是枝裕和《如父如子》」那样抱错孩子的情况，结果“一念成谶”。然而阿莫多瓦并没有选择就此问题将矛盾冲突复杂化，而是做了一些减法，如：缩短故事时间长度、设计巧合让两个母亲再次相遇乃至逐渐发展成同性伴侣关系、安排意外死掉一个小孩但并未让两个母亲就此展开争夺女儿的撕逼剧情，…… 对比之下，个人感觉还是《如父如子》的故事更现实更有深度更让我青睐。★★★☆
历史永远不会沉默。插入女性主题的部分仿佛连着又偶尔觉得牵强，下一秒也不是不能接受。承认真相，面对真相是迈向未来的第一步。可能这一点是相通的。
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