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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
希望施耐德早日反悔，给Netflix拍完电影还能继续跟华纳合作。。。
尝试了三次才给看完，剧情真的太慢了，受众就是DC美漫粉丝，幸好院线上映的不是这版，不然我能在电影院睡过去。唯一优点是扎克施耐德版没有尾灯那些直男视角下流笑话。
四个小时，挣扎着看完。有必要吗真的有必要吗……看到最后看他们打架看烦了都
好家伙 8.9分 是不是过誉了 确实比院线版完成度更高 但是很多内容都是为后作做铺垫 个人感觉看的很乱 作为独立电影去看不算完整
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扎导这个剪辑版几乎改观了我对诺兰蝙蝠侠之后DC电影都很好睡的印象！
Hallelu Yah！
有一说一，尾灯虽然菜，但是他好歹能够把故事干净利落地讲明白。而咱们自视甚高的扎导，用一堆不知所谓的慢镜头和不痛不痒的废篇硬生生地堆砌了一段四小时的暗色调MV。
我一向不在意扎克电影的时长，所以更长时间所能展现的更多故事线，更完整的人物成长，还有更多的新剧情都让我觉得新鲜，几乎所有的角色都有了更好更多的展现（除了超人，少了抠脸的补拍后，戏份反而更少了）。
多少个镜头都充斥着扎导对这个宇宙的思考和热爱，把如此庞大的宇宙和概念完整地搬到银幕上
火星猎人，丧钟，最后莱托版小丑出场的不义联盟剧情，闪电侠两次逆转时间，绿灯侠正脸，罗宾……还有类似《斯巴达300》的镜头……
在疯狂辱骂了乔斯维登四年后，扎克施耐德粉丝终于发现他们讨厌的绝大部分桥段都是扎导自己拍的
又臭又长，把素材一刀不剪无脑堆在一起再把色调调黑就成了所谓导剪版，虽然原版也没有很优秀，但是相比之下简直改得不要太成功，这版要是上了大荧幕华纳估计不是重启DC，是直接倒闭了。
比原版确实好一点点，至少人物背景故事都有了。但是故事大纲没变，所以这个剧情依旧不咋地。。。渣导一心想要营造黑暗气氛，想要装B，为此还改变了影调，饱和度还有画幅，但是。。。他那么多年动不动就慢镜头的毛病却还是一点都没有长进，这点不改就不要指望自己成为什么大导演了。。。全片的最大亮点其实是平行时空的那段。如果拍那个超人黑化的故事，绝对比现在这个小强打外星人的故事要好看一百倍。。。所以如果华纳还觉得DCEU有就的话，就不要搞什么到现在都还是一团乱麻的暮光之城蝙蝠侠了，不如横下心拍大家都黑化的不义联。。。毕竟DCEU这堆烂摊子，不搞点猛料大概率是救不活了。。。
扎导叙事弱是事实，所以他的电影必须尽可能地拖长才能流淌出气氛的魅力，并且越看越有沉浸感，结尾的“附赠”篇章真是非常吸引人，可惜我们可能再也看不到后续了。总之，这是属于粉丝的一场胜利，就意义来说也足够列入迷影史和产业史了。
正如有媒体评价的，这就是把没用过的片段都拿出来放了。杂乱，所以用章节把混乱的情节组合在一起。配合角色加几个mv，加点慢动作和调暗色彩——所谓的黑暗风格？超人仍然是最牛的仔。故事的实质其实并不比院线版好，只是满足了专情粉的“情怀”。仍然没有改进故事的硬伤——铺垫不足，正义联盟不该这么早出现。往好的原因想，可以这样解释。往不怎么好的方面解释，就是ta好像没想好怎么改进“人化”的内核。
//前期有剪輯瑕疵，畢竟最後了所有素材都放出來了。但結尾大戰and彩蛋真的是給一萬星都不足夠！！！
看完后的第一想法：请快点拍出埃兹拉·米勒版闪电侠单人电影！
不是所有导演剪辑都能化腐朽为神奇，“跟原版不是一部电影”不等于这部就是好电影。与其说是重构不如说是注水，从叙事到节奏甚至到音乐都是三流水准，拖沓的彩蛋更是散得一塌糊涂，全片像个 mediocre 毫无天赋却对自己作品爱不释手的作家不愿取舍的裹脚布，metacritic 的 5.7 分更接近我心目中的评分。其实我没搞懂 Zack Snyder 怎么就封神了，明明他拍的一堆电影都很平庸，最出彩的可能也就是斯巴达。DC 粉是不是有点太饥不择食了，到处给 DC 电影为啥不好看找借口，于是就怪在华纳上了把希望寄予导演剪辑版。
感谢扎导 感谢心心姐 感谢一同为之奋斗的扎粉们
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