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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
前面40分钟确实有点劝退，冗长无味；但电影的最后几分钟，又让前面的40分钟(主要是怪胎的故事线)有了意义，就还挺奇妙的。
2022-02-13
自欺欺人的骗子终得报应，竟然还是个关于心理咨询的悬疑故事…没看过原版，单就这部的复古质感和黑色故事气质，挺吸引人，没觉得长，而且摄影很加分。结尾太急着去收了，不过当大魔王在故事中间按下录音时，大概能猜到结局
神马玩意啊! 1个半小时能说清楚的故事,非抻了2个半小时。
靠火太近会被焚。
库珀一身noir劲装，但在你魔面前还是像个小受。
拍得非常精致，摄影、服装、化妆、灯光等都相当讲究、舒服，演员表演也很克制。这部影片翻拍过几次，按理说故事应该没什么问题，关键在于整体节奏、悬念、手法的创造和运用。现在看，镜头运用似乎还是比较平稳、传统，难以让人感受到新奇之处。
前半段不太行，甚至跟后半段过于脱节，黑色气质也不够。不太明白陀螺翻拍的意思。
«El callejón de las almas perdidas» 西语译名还真是直直直译…… 这故事讲两个半小时也太过冗长了吧
纯粹在为情怀买单。观众的男女比例大概1:20，散场以后樱花妹笑着讲不是很懂大家的心情，默默在心里笑开了花儿……一句日语不懂的高中时代第一次看第二季，如今七年过去，成了在这个国家上班的普通社会人，早他妈跟平庸的自己和解了，但大家怎么还在游泳，还在追梦，还没过二十这个坎儿啊……要怎样，是柯南厚……（Alberto这个角色的配音太让人出戏了omg
剧情看下来不比原版差。
有点太四平八稳了，陀螺的特长在这个并没有太天马行空的设定中，有些施展不开。渐渐地我发现，演员的表演似乎并不是陀螺的强项，如果没有奇情的支撑，现实语境 中即使是这些好演员，也没有建立起良好的化学反应
40。
还是《水形物语》的摄影师，镜头几乎始终在保持一种近乎强迫性的运动，舒缓而微妙，剪辑节奏十分流畅，痕迹感很轻，同《水形》类似，这是一部视觉上非常浓稠、非常smooth的电影。相比47原版，陀螺给出了多方面的增减，比如明显减低了神秘主义和宗教启示的元素，果断砍掉了原版那个明显出于时代因素而添加的累赘尾声，扩充人物的前史和动机，将目光更多聚焦于人物和其所处环境。然而可惜的是，老版的文本其实已经比较陈旧了，陀螺的突破根本不够，大部分段落的叙事极其沉闷空洞，这么点事情拍了两个半小时，真没那么多说头。另外能看出来，老版真正吸引到陀螺的元素肯定是前半段的马戏团生活，尤其是geek。
有点演不出那种感觉
陀螺的场景和服化真的是好，沿袭《水形物语》极致的精致。复原一百年前逐渐消逝的马戏和嘉年华时代，陀螺是当仁不让的第一，这一点蒂姆波顿和《马戏之王》都差得远。但他似乎失去了《猩红山峰》时期那种疯狂的想象力，这部最后的高潮戏简直不能再塌了，真的就是走了两步就完了啊。另外本片最大的问题毫无疑问来自库珀，他的身形、言语和表演，都不属于那个时代的灵媒。这应该是个敏感，脆弱的人设，而不是库珀这种带着弱智自信的美国肌肉男。《甘草披萨》里库珀那个角色就特适合他。
当时怎么看下来的，现在觉得太中二了。声优们还是很棒
画风依旧无可挑剔！但就是cp大乱炖实在是受不了啊啊啊…还有嗑上金城和清哥哥了！
1.画面感拿捏了 2.回忆杀 3.剧情紧凑要素很多 4.剧情抓马为下半部铺垫 5.不看真的会错亿 5.凛遥是真的 6.对全员陷入爱情
哇精彩精致，好看，时长确实有点长，但故事还是值得看下去的，或许可以改编成剧集
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